ASOIAF Book Club – A Game of Thrones, Chapters 44-58

It’s time once again for the twice-a-month round-up of questions from Mithril Wisdom’s A Song of Ice and Fire book club. We’re approaching the end of Game of Thrones now, the plot’s heating up, and many of the separate stories are really coming together.

So let’s look at the questions for this period and see what kind of answers I can come up with.

JoinTheRealm_sigilJamie: Why do you think Jon Snow goes to such great lengths to protect and help out Sam Tarly?

From what I’ve seen of Jon, he has two very strong personal beliefs: a sense of place, and a sense of justice. He knows where he isn’t allowed to be, he knows where he wants to be, and he can see talent in others. And attached to that, he saw Sam being forced into a place he wasn’t suited for, and by bullies, nd the two things combined into a reaction that was a lot like taking Sam under his wing.

They also had more in common than a first look would account for. They both have been rejected by their families, in one form or another, both felt unwelcome in the places they came from, and both had something to prove. I think that Jon saw a lot of himself in Sam, and there was more than a little bit of vicarious fulfillment going on whenever he helped Sam.

Heather: Ser Jorah Mormont has been by Daenerys as she has grown amongst the Dothraki. We know he has a price on his head by Ned Stark and cannot return home without facing death. Do you think he’s helping Daenerys as part of a new life for himself, or rather he sees her as his ticket back to his homeland?

This one took a lot of thought, because I hadn’t actually paid much attention to Mormont before. He’s unnoteworthy in the way that he’s not a jackass, and so I don’t feel my blood pressure rise when he’s on the page, nor is he a main character, so he kind of fades into the background quite a bit when I’m reading. It’s easy to forget that he’s even still around sometimes.

From what I can remember of him, it seems a lot like he’s helping Daenerys more out of loyalty than anything else. He may have an ulterior motive, but I think it’s secondary to actual loyalty. There are plenty of times where he has done things that he didn’t necessarily need to do if he was just tagging along for the ride, so to speak.

gameofthronesAllison: Why do you think so much emphasis is put on Dany’s dragon eggs in the story so far?

From Daenerys’s standpoint, I think they’re a symbol for the lost strength that she hopes to find again. But I also think that’s a very personal thing; even she says that they’re only stones and couldn’t understand why anyone would want them, but at the same time, she’s not willing to give them up if she has another choice.

I think, also, that they’re something of a metaphor for herself, now that she’s pregnant. An egg is something that protects the unborn until they can come into the world and live for themselves, which is exactly what she’s doing. And the fact that it’s a dragon’s egg, and there’s all the mentions of her family having the blood of dragons, the metaphor seems pretty clear.

Ria: What do you think of the chapters from Bran’s perspective? Do they more like filler material, a means to see what’s going on where other main characters can’t be, or do you think there’s going to be something more important that he’ll take a central role in?

I ask the questions I’m not sure how to answer! At the moment, it seems like a lot of filler material with small hints as to what’s going on back at Winterfell, just so we don’t forget. But it’s done so interestingly, through the eyes of a child who doesn’t understand all of the politics surrounding him, that even if they are mostly filler, they’re still enjoyable chapters to read.

I find this with a lot of the chapters written from the point of view of the children. They add an interesting perspective, and usually end up seeing far more than adults give them credit for because often, adults don’t think that children will understand the significance of things. They see things in ways and in places that older characters might not, so it gives a greater sense of scale to the overall story, and gives the reader additional tidbits of info that makes the whole thing feel that much grander, that much more complete.

And a bonus question from Jamie: On a scale of one to awesome, how did it feel to read Viserys getting his comeuppance? Golden crowns all round!

On a scale of one to awesome, so awesome! Everyone was tired of his BS, and when he stepped over the line, nobody was willing to cut him any slack anymore. And it’s about damn time!

Read what the others in the club are saying! Jamie | Heather | Allison

6 comments on “ASOIAF Book Club – A Game of Thrones, Chapters 44-58

  1. Agreed; the chapters with the kids in give us an insight into the kind of thing that the adults would miss e.g. Arya beneath the Red Keep, “What Bran Saw” etc. It’s the dramatic irony that if the adults listened to their kids more a lot of these problems would have been avoided.

  2. I love reading your comments on the questions for these roundups. They make me think about the characters and situations in different ways and I think I’m enjoying it all the more for it.

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